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Post by kiddextreme on Mar 20, 2012 22:10:28 GMT -5
After the whole TPI situation a while back, there's no way in hell I'll buy tix in advance UNLESS I get them in my hand at the time I hand over the money.
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Post by Skullz on Mar 21, 2012 0:22:58 GMT -5
After the whole TPI situation a while back, there's no way in hell I'll buy tix in advance UNLESS I get them in my hand at the time I hand over the money. What's that worth if the show don't happen?
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Post by kiddextreme on Mar 21, 2012 10:45:46 GMT -5
Good point. That's another reason not to buy in advance....the really bad history of show cancellations.
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Post by Barbed_Wire_Bored on Mar 21, 2012 21:11:44 GMT -5
The fact that the few people here are even able to talk like this, and no one has done anything about it, nor addressed any of the concerns (which would take about 5 minutes, if that) is why this wont work to any great degree, not because of some crappy botchmania videos featured IWA stuff, like most people seem to think.
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Post by J1EZ on Mar 22, 2012 20:59:18 GMT -5
Sorry. But you're an absolute moron if you actually believed that Ian was not involved.
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Post by Barbed_Wire_Bored on Mar 23, 2012 0:41:41 GMT -5
I might have believed at one time that Ian wasn't involved, and perhaps also didn't care either during the 'KOTDM 2011' period of time, but it then to become obvious that even at least one of the owners didn't know Ian was involved, that seems beyond 'sneaky kayfabe-ism', and just downright dishonest. There's a difference between a storyline and cheating the wrestling fans/owners and possibly some of the wrestlers too. If Ian being involved was what caused IWA to have to close to begin with (no matter what you think of him) then being involved again can only be a bad decision.
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Post by BestMistyEVER on Mar 23, 2012 1:34:24 GMT -5
Okay guys, listen. Ian Rotten is NOT the owner of IWA-Midwest, nor is he the the owner of IWA-Midsouth. He is a paid employee of both. He is strictly there to BOOK the shows, as well as help produce them. It has been said that Ian is a shitty business man, and Ian himself will agree with that. However, not one person alive can say he does not book a good to great show EVERYTIME. He has developed some of the most amazing talent in the country, and that cannot be denied either. His eye for talent and potential is unmatched anywhere.
It should also be said that even through the shitstorm some of you people heap on him, some of the best guys in the business still stand beside him, still love working for him and will be on any show he requests them on. (Drake Younger, Masada, Devon Moore, Necro Butcher, B-Boy, etc.)
Before any of you bring up money... while I personally believe the pay the wrestlers recieve isn't anyones business except the payer and payee, you should know that Ian doesn't touch the money. Ask ANY of the guys that have worked on the shows, or any of the people involved. He is a BOOKER. It has been announced that he was the BOOKER. Since ALL of your gripes about Ian are money related (anything else you might have to complain about is hearsay), then him BOOKING the shows shouldn't affect any of you negatively. In fact, it's a perfect situation for anyone who was EVER an IWA-MS fan.
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Post by Boogie Down on Mar 23, 2012 6:03:14 GMT -5
Having had many personal conversations with Masada and Necro i can assure you, they arent as fond of him as you claim.
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Post by BestMistyEVER on Mar 23, 2012 9:44:51 GMT -5
Well actions speak much louder than words, and it's still a fact that neither of them have turned down a booking. Not to mention, in Masada's shoot interview, he spoke highly of Ian. Since you're such a wrestling insider, you should also already know that Ian and Necro have both admitted that they've had their ups and downs in their friendship, but especially after the last IWA-MW show I would say that Necro is definitely an Ian Rotten supporter. However, I'm not on here to get into a he said-she said battle with anyone. I'm not stating speculation here, I'm stating facts.
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Post by Boogie Down on Mar 23, 2012 9:59:47 GMT -5
Wasnt it also a "fact" that "Ian Rotten has nothing to do with the new IWA-MS"?
The Insider
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Post by iwamw on Mar 23, 2012 10:33:31 GMT -5
First I would like to apoligize to IWA and fans for not getting on here any sooner to address alot of things. Ive have had personal family matters that come up and personally felt that was more important at the time.
As far as the relationship between IWA MS and IWA MW is this, I asked if I could use the IWA MS messageboard for several months where I could work on getting the IWA MW name out there and also it would give me time to get mine own messageboard, website started and working.
I pay Ian Rotten to be my BOOKER, he gets paid to book IWA MW shows. March 2nd was the first IWA MW show and it was a good solid show and I personally believe it will get better every show. Indymania is shaping up to be huge,
I seen someone has posted about advance tickets, I would like to clarify something in reguards what your talking about was to due with a IWA MS matter not IWA Midwest, March 2nd was the first show that IWA Midwest ran.
Also if anyone does need advance tickets, I assure you that Im in charge of that, and if anyone needs any advance tickets please email me at iwamidwestwrestling@aol.com, and Ill help you in your needs.
Someone also mentioned the price of tickets, I will say that this show does have higher tickets prices for the fact of prices of airline tickets, Thats why we've gave the opition of advance tickets as follows Front Row $15.00, General Admission $10.00 and Kids $7.00, The Front Row and General Admission goes up $5.00 the day of the show. And for the fans in Peoria/Bellevue I have advance ticket for sale now and am in the area til the days show.
If theres any concerns or questions please feel free to email me at iwamidwestwrestling@aol.com and I will respond as quickly as I can.
JG - Owner of IWA Midwest
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Post by BestMistyEVER on Mar 23, 2012 12:17:44 GMT -5
Actually, Boogie Down, it was never really addressed by IWA-MS. It had been stated that Ian was NOT the owner and that he would NOT wrestle, but none of IWA-MS management EVER said that Ian would have absolutely nothing to do with the company. He BOOKED the shows. He never touched money and never entered the ring.
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Post by J1EZ on Mar 23, 2012 13:16:26 GMT -5
Then why was he supposed to wrestle dysfunction at the 2011 KOTDM? That's why Dys backed out.. And I do remember reading somewhere that Ian would not be involved in ANY capacity..
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Post by BestMistyEVER on Mar 23, 2012 14:02:00 GMT -5
It was a deliberate decision on behalf of IWA MS to specifically NEVER say that Ian wasn't involved. Noone ever asked who the booker was! If you can point it out where someone in IWA management (NOT a fan speculating!) said Ian wasn't involved in any capacity, then I will eat my words. Additionally, in the future at IWA MS shows Ian will not wrestle. Vince and Mike strictly want Ian to focus on booking.
As far as the Dysfunction/KOTDM 2011 situation... If Ian was scheduled to wrestle Dys, he would have simply wrestled someone else when Dys walked out. When Dys arrived, someone in the parking lot told him he was going to wrestle Ian. This is before he even entered the building. Instead of sticking around to find out if it was true, he left. He even mentioned it to Mike Miller outside and Mike told him he wouldn't have to wrestle Ian. He left ANYWAY.
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Post by BestMistyEVER on Mar 23, 2012 16:57:44 GMT -5
Well, J1EZ... I saw the post where you asked if Dysfunction knew Ian was booker. Not sure why you took it down, maybe you felt it was argumentative but I will answer your question.
ALL of the wrestlers that have been booked or even approached about working for IWA MS or IWA MW were informed that Ian was the booker, whether Ian was the one approaching them or not. Yes, Dysfunction was booked by Mike Miller, but it was at Ians request and the information was disclosed to him immediately.
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