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Post by The Arch Bishop of IWA on Sept 4, 2011 22:16:35 GMT -5
First of all do not compare Carnage Cup 2011 to TOD. Carnage Cup was incredible, while TOD sucked. If IWA Mid South delivers a show like Carnage Cup this year I would be very happy. Now I don't think its a good idea to drink pop while glass is flying around everywhere Misty, people should use common sense. I'm also tired of people saying "What If" living by fear is no way to live. This is a death match tournament, enter at your own risk, if they don't get it, its their problem. And don't worry about law suits, no one is gonna be able to do shit, especially in places like Bellevue, away from all the hot shot Chicago lawyers. lol
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Post by Will Ridge on Sept 4, 2011 22:52:05 GMT -5
Sorry dude, but I gotta disagree with you about Carnage Cup being a good show. I'd call it "incredible" in the "I can't believe what I'm seeing" sence. I thought it was a bunch of guys doing the craziest bumps and spots I've ever seen, with absolutely no regard for ring work or psychology. I give the guy who booked it credit though for coming up with some sick and twisted stipulations though.
And I'm also sure as hell not calling TOD a good show either, because they did the exact opposite of what Carnage Cup did. That show had some of the best deathmatch workers on the planet in matches that didn't have very many memorable spots and sick bumps, and a bunch of bad booking.
Let's hope that the new owners are able to look at both these shows and learn from their mistakes. If they do, we could be looking at one of the best deathmatch tournaments to come out in a long time.
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Post by rotten4life on Sept 4, 2011 23:01:21 GMT -5
Oh I know it's enter at your own risk. But I have seen fans at shows get legit pissed over WAY less than getting cut, you know?? I mean not everyone gets the Enter at Your Own Risk warning. True true, I just wish more people realized that there is a danger involved in going to these types of shows, but i know personally i love that, ive been cut, bled on, had glass in my eye(shoot) and so on and i think it adds to the epicness of the show. I mean the stips so far sound great, and its the playes involved that make the stip or match itself great, and in this case they will make these matches awesome! And with the carnage cup i know for a fact that if they knew how to work rather than just stab each other that show could have been one of the best deathmatch shows EVER, thats why i say build to shit like will is implying i believe.
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Post by BestMistyEVER on Sept 4, 2011 23:33:47 GMT -5
I wasn't mad at it at all.. the soda was a buck, and I just threw it away and got another one when the show was over... but Yan, when someone is thirsty and they buy a drink, they're not gonna guzzle it as fast as they can thinking "I need to drink this before the tube match!" I mean it's just not something most people actually think about. Common sense or not. And I wasn't worried about lawsuits. I was just implying that if something were to happen IF there were lighttubes for the sake of lighttubes, people are gonna give everyone involved shit. Especially those who already requested less of them. Personally, I could care less. It wasn't a big deal to ME. I had a ball. But I care about the company, and I care about them building a fresh, clean reputation. The new owners don't need the stigma of an asshole fan somehow hurt at their FIRST show. That's allllll I'm saying.
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Post by The Arch Bishop of IWA on Sept 4, 2011 23:34:01 GMT -5
Sorry dude, but I gotta disagree with you about Carnage Cup being a good show. I'd call it "incredible" in the "I can't believe what I'm seeing" sence. I thought it was a bunch of guys doing the craziest bumps and spots I've ever seen, with absolutely no regard for ring work or psychology. I give the guy who booked it credit though for coming up with some sick and twisted stipulations though. And I'm also sure as hell not calling TOD a good show either, because they did the exact opposite of what Carnage Cup did. That show had some of the best deathmatch workers on the planet in matches that didn't have very many memorable spots and sick bumps, and a bunch of bad booking. Let's hope that the new owners are able to look at both these shows and learn from their mistakes. If they do, we could be looking at one of the best deathmatch tournaments to come out in a long time. How can IWA Deep South build up psychology or whatever if they only run like two shows a year? There were no previous feuds between workers, no story lines, so this is exactly why they just beat the shit out of each other. Mid South built feuds because they ran almost every week. Please don't confuse the situation. If you only run once or twice a year, the room for psychology becomes minimum.
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Post by bigvicvonerich on Sept 4, 2011 23:41:08 GMT -5
This thread has given me a headache but...
1) Carnage Cup was awesome live...well worth the 6 or 7 hr drive...
2) light tubes give the best death match visuals... the more the merrier!
3) Misty quit crying!
4) KOTDM is only 2 weeks away!!!!!!!
Vic
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Post by BestMistyEVER on Sept 4, 2011 23:46:01 GMT -5
Victor. I am not crying. All I was saying, in a nutshell, is I can see why people would want less of them used, and more inventive matches with different stips than is seen all the time. Shut up, or I will hit YOU with a lighttube!!!!!!!!
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Post by Barbed_Wire_Bored on Sept 4, 2011 23:51:02 GMT -5
Is it bad form to show up to a deathmatch tournament wearing goggles? I guess you could always wear a tail, and just pretend to be cosplaying Jun Kasai
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Post by bigvicvonerich on Sept 4, 2011 23:54:50 GMT -5
Crispy Lettuce (Chris P. Lettuce?) always wears goggles to death match tourneys!
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Post by Obo on Sept 5, 2011 0:17:50 GMT -5
I had a pair of construction goggles I'd wear any time I was planning on being really close to the action. They were more or less worthless at KOTDM 2008 because they kept fogging up like 20 seconds after I put them on due to the heat and humidity. I'd 100% suggest protective eye wear if you're going to be in the front row and if you have breathing issues, do bring the little doctor's mask gimmick too. I have asthma and would always develop a pretty harsh cough the day after big deathmatch shows, because of the gases inside of light tubes. The stuff isn't good for ANYONE to be breathing. If you've got sensitive lungs, definitely protect them. Everyone should wear eye wear though. a pair of goggles will cost you like $1 at Walmart. When light tubes bust, you've got no idea where they are going, fragments everywhere.. especially if you're in the front row, there's a high chance for injury. gotta protect your eyes. At Kings of Extreme, Chase had a full on crimson mask from the main event, from a piece of shrapnel that came flying our way and my arms were pretty sliced up.
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Post by The Arch Bishop of IWA on Sept 5, 2011 1:12:31 GMT -5
I had a pair of construction goggles I'd wear any time I was planning on being really close to the action. They were more or less worthless at KOTDM 2008 because they kept fogging up like 20 seconds after I put them on due to the heat and humidity. I'd 100% suggest protective eye wear if you're going to be in the front row and if you have breathing issues, do bring the little doctor's mask gimmick too. I have asthma and would always develop a pretty harsh cough the day after big deathmatch shows, because of the gases inside of light tubes. The stuff isn't good for ANYONE to be breathing. If you've got sensitive lungs, definitely protect them. Everyone should wear eye wear though. a pair of goggles will cost you like $1 at Walmart. When light tubes bust, you've got no idea where they are going, fragments everywhere.. especially if you're in the front row, there's a high chance for injury. gotta protect your eyes. At Kings of Extreme, Chase had a full on crimson mask from the main event, from a piece of shrapnel that came flying our way and my arms were pretty sliced up. Can you get any nerdier? I always sat front row and never wore any goggles. If you someone has a medical condition they shouldn't go to death matches period. I mean the boys in the ring are busing their asses and destroying themselves for us the fans and we gonna disrespect them by wearing goggles? I have a potty mouth that. I say if the wrestlers willing to put themselves through hell, and walk away from it alive, the least I can do as fan is to watch it without being a pussy about it.
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Post by bigolegreezy on Sept 5, 2011 1:26:49 GMT -5
I had a pair of construction goggles I'd wear any time I was planning on being really close to the action. They were more or less worthless at KOTDM 2008 because they kept fogging up like 20 seconds after I put them on due to the heat and humidity. I'd 100% suggest protective eye wear if you're going to be in the front row and if you have breathing issues, do bring the little doctor's mask gimmick too. I have asthma and would always develop a pretty harsh cough the day after big deathmatch shows, because of the gases inside of light tubes. The stuff isn't good for ANYONE to be breathing. If you've got sensitive lungs, definitely protect them. Everyone should wear eye wear though. a pair of goggles will cost you like $1 at Walmart. When light tubes bust, you've got no idea where they are going, fragments everywhere.. especially if you're in the front row, there's a high chance for injury. gotta protect your eyes. At Kings of Extreme, Chase had a full on crimson mask from the main event, from a piece of shrapnel that came flying our way and my arms were pretty sliced up. Can you get any nerdier? I always sat front row and never wore any goggles. If you someone has a medical condition they shouldn't go to death matches period. I mean the boys in the ring are busing their asses and destroying themselves for us the fans and we gonna disrespect them by wearing goggles? I have a potty mouth that. I say if the wrestlers willing to put themselves through hell, and walk away from it alive, the least I can do as fan is to watch it without being a pussy about it.[/quote/] HELL YEA! My 10 year old daughter (well 8 at the time) was covered in the shrapnel of a light tube bundle thrown by Brain Damage at the 2008 Double Death. No glasses and she loved it.
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Post by Barbed_Wire_Bored on Sept 5, 2011 2:22:11 GMT -5
I'd rather be a 'pussy' without a bleeding face, thanks. If I wanted to get cut up myself, I'd become a deathmatch wrestler, which I don't because I enjoy watching it, not getting involved. So that logic of "boys in the ring are busing their asses and destroying themselves for us the fans and we gonna disrespect them by wearing goggles?" is ridiculous.
Also, nerdy? You're on an internet forum, typing to people you will mostly never see, about wrestling of all things.
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Post by The Arch Bishop of IWA on Sept 5, 2011 4:06:56 GMT -5
I'd rather be a 'pussy' without a bleeding face, thanks. If I wanted to get cut up myself, I'd become a deathmatch wrestler, which I don't because I enjoy watching it, not getting involved. So that logic of "boys in the ring are busing their asses and destroying themselves for us the fans and we gonna disrespect them by wearing goggles?" is ridiculous. Also, nerdy? You're on an internet forum, typing to people you will mostly never see, about wrestling of all things. Wrong I have seen most of the people here, I surely did see Obo. You should really come out of England and experience IWA live, you will understand why socially goggles is not the best idea. lol
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Post by Barbed_Wire_Bored on Sept 5, 2011 8:38:28 GMT -5
MOSTLY never see, notice I said MOSTLY, as there are probably hundreds of people reading this, not just the people posting, as partly evident by crowd numbers and DVD sales alone.
With the goggles thing, trust me, I gave up caring what people thought of my looks about 10 years ago, so it's not going to start again any time soon. I'd rather be safe than everybodies best buddy. I'm the most unsocial person I know, which is why I wouldn't attend, but am happy to buy the DVD. Plus the fact that it's a different country and I have never owned a passport, not would I ever want one to be honest.
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